Sunday, March 23, 2025

“O Lord, Listen! O Lord, Forgive! O Lord, Hear and Act!” [Matt's Messages]

“O Lord, Listen! O Lord, Forgive! O Lord, Hear and Act!”
The King of Kingdoms - The Book of Daniel
Lanse Evangelical Free Church
March 23, 2025 :: Daniel 9:1-27  

Daniel chapter 9 is a little different.

It’s definitely the same book, but it has a different feel to it than what has come before.

For one, it doesn’t start with a problem or a vision. It doesn’t have one of those classic Bible story problems like we saw so many times in the first half of the book. A king, a dream, a threat (chapters 1-6). And it doesn’t start with one of those wild and crazy apocalyptic visions like we’ve seen so far in the second half of the book (chapters 7 and 8).

It’s still very prophetic, as we’ll see at the enigmatic end of the chapter, but Daniel 9 is different. 

It’s mainly a long prayer. The wiseman Daniel records for us what he prayed one day in 539 BC. And the wild and wonderful way that God answered that prayer.

We have a very long title for today’s message. I tried to keep up the pattern of the last seven sermons and pick a name for God that this chapter was all about, but I just couldn’t settle on one. Because this chapter is so full of names for God! So many! Including God’s covenant name, Yahweh, which hasn’t shown up yet in this book. It shows up 8 times in this chapter! And so do another names, “Adonai” and “Elohim” especially, in various combinations. 

Daniel knows Whom he is talking to. And he has some big things to ask God to do. Our title comes from the last verse that Keagan read to us. Verse 19. The word “Lord” in Hebrew there is “Adonai.”

“O Lord, Listen! O Lord, Forgive! O Lord, Hear and Act!”


You can tell that this is prayer of desperation and dependance, and I think it is a model for us today. Let’s start in verse 1.

“In the first year of Darius son of Xerxes (a Mede by descent), who was made ruler over the Babylonian kingdom–in the first year of his reign, I, Daniel, understood from the Scriptures, according to the word of the LORD [Yahweh] given to Jeremiah the prophet, that the desolation of Jerusalem would last seventy years” (vv.1-2).

Daniel gives us a date for this prayer. It was about 539BC. King Darius the Mede (son of Xerxes), [or the Hebrew there is “Ahasuerus” but not the one from the book of Esther.] was in his first year.


Darius the Mede was the king put in charge of Babylon in the days of the high king Cyrus of the Persians. And he’s the king that reluctantly threw Daniel to the lions in chapter 6.

Remember what Daniel was doing that got him into that trouble? Daniel was praying. Three times a day, Daniel was praying at his open window, facing Jerusalem. He was about how old? Anybody remember? Eighty years old. Getting down on his knees. 
 
Well, about that time, Daniel was studying his Bible and he came to understand that according to the word of the LORD given to Jeremiah that the desolation of his beloved Jerusalem was nearly over!

Isn’t that amazing? First off, that he had a copy of Jeremiah! Daniel might have heard Jeremiah preaching back when he was a child in Jerusalem. Jeremiah preached for 40 years. He had prophesied for about 22 years before Daniel was drug off to Babylon. But Jeremiah didn’t finish his book of prophecies until at least 20 years after Daniel had been taken in captivity! 

However, a copy of Jeremiah has made it to old Daniel’s hands, and he’s reading it. And he’s studying it. And he’s praying it. 

“Hey, this scroll says, that our exile in Babylon is going to last 70 years.”


“Therefore the LORD Almighty says this: ‘Because you have not listened to my words, I will summon all the peoples of the north and my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon,’ declares the LORD, ‘and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants and against all the surrounding nations. I will completely destroy them and make them an object of horror and scorn, and an everlasting ruin. I will banish from them the sounds of joy and gladness, the voices of bride and bridegroom, the sound of millstones and the light of the lamp. This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years. ‘But when the seventy years are fulfilled, I will punish the king of Babylon and his nation, the land of the Babylonians, for their guilt,’ declares the LORD, ‘and will make it desolate forever. I will bring upon that land all the things I have spoken against it, all that are written in this book and prophesied by Jeremiah against all the nations. They themselves will be enslaved by many nations and great kings; I will repay them according to their deeds and the work of their hands’ (Jer. 25:8-14).

Daniel says, “I think the 70 years are about up.” Daniel has been in Babylon for 66 years. That’s pretty close to 70!

And few chapters later, Daniel read this in the beloved Jeremiah chapter 29:

“This is what the LORD says: ‘When seventy years are completed for Babylon, I will come to you and fulfill my gracious promise to bring you back to this place. For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and will bring you back from captivity. I will gather you from all the nations and places where I have banished you,’ declares the LORD, ‘and will bring you back to the place from which I carried you into exile’” (Jer. 29:10-15).

So Daniel says, “I guess we better start praying!”

Do you ever wonder, “Why bother praying if God has already decided and even already said what He was going to do?” Daniel doesn’t feel that way at all. He prays because God has said what He is going to do. And because God has said that prayer is one of things He’s going to use to do it!

The LORD said, “Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart. I will be found by you and will bring you back from captivity.”

And Daniel says, “Okay. Let’s pray! Let’s go!” 

Dare to be a Daniel and pray the Bible back to God! Verse 3.

“So I turned to the Lord God (“Adonai-Elohim”) and pleaded with him in prayer and petition, in fasting, and in sackcloth and ashes. [He’s serious about this. Eighty-year-old man wearing scratchy sackcloth and pouring ashes on his head.] I prayed to the LORD my God (“Yahweh-Elohim”) and confessed: ‘O Lord, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant of love with all who love him and obey his commands, we have sinned and done wrong” (vv.3-5a).

Notice that Daniel starts with adoration. He starts his prayer with how great and awesome God is. That’s always a good place to start. It’s okay to start with our problems and our needs, especially if we’re in a jam. But Daniel recognizes that his people are in desperate trouble, and he starts with how awesome their God is. “Hallowed be your name! You’re a covenant keeper. You are great and righteous!”
And then he turns to lament and confession. V.5.

“We have been wicked and have rebelled; we have turned away from your commands and laws. We have not listened to your servants the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our princes and our fathers, and to all the people of the land. Lord, you are righteous, but this day we are covered with shame–the men of Judah and people of Jerusalem and all Israel, both near and far, in all the countries where you have scattered us because of our unfaithfulness to you” (vv.5-7).

Do we pray like this? Not very often.

Notice that Daniel identifies closely with his people. He doesn’t say, “Those people over there have sinned. They are really bad.” He could! That’s true. In many ways, Daniel didn’t even personally participate in some of the sins that he’s confessing right here. But he does it anyway. He knows he’s connected. And he knows that he’s not innocent.

Isn’t this different from the rest of the book so far?

I mean in the first 8 chapters, the Jews have been the good guys, and the pagan Gentiles king and all have been the bad guys.

You know how in the old cowboy movies you could tell who the good guys were because they wore white hats and the bad guys wore the black hats? Well, so far in the book of Daniel, the Gentile pagan empires that ruled over the Jews clearly were the ones with the black hats, and the Jews were clearly the ones with the white hats.

But in chapter 9, Daniel prays revealing that he knows that the Jews are in this predicament because they are black hat people, too.

The whole reason they were in Babylon was not because Babylon was so great and powerful, but because Yahweh kept His promise, kept His threat to send them into exile if they wouldn’t stop their sinning. Verse 8.

“O LORD, we and our kings, our princes and our fathers are covered with shame because we have sinned against you. The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him; we have not obeyed the LORD our God or kept the laws he gave us through his servants the prophets. All Israel has transgressed your law and turned away, refusing to obey you. ‘Therefore the curses and sworn judgments written in the Law of Moses, the servant of God, have been poured out on us, because we have sinned against you” (vv.8-11).

He doesn’t blame the pagans for their predicament. He doesn’t blame some people far away. He says, “We.”

I think that’s powerful. I’m very tempted to blame all of my problems on somebody else. We love to do that in America, too. We blame the “other” political party than “ours” for everything. They are the problem! But Daniel says, “We.”

“[W]e have not obeyed the LORD our God or kept the laws he gave us through his servants the prophets.”

They were “a broken record about a broken covenant.” “Jeremiah told us. Isaiah told us. Elijah told us. Elisha told us. But we did not listen. And God told us what would happen if we did not listen! He told us back in Leviticus (26) and Deuteronomy (28) what would happen if we did not listen. Exile! And that’s exactly what He did.” Verse 12.

“You have fulfilled the words spoken against us and against our rulers by bringing upon us great disaster. Under the whole heaven nothing has ever been done like what has been done to Jerusalem. [Read Lamentations!]  Just as it is written in the Law of Moses, all this disaster has come upon us, yet we have not sought the favor of the LORD our God by turning from our sins and giving attention to your truth. [We still haven’t learned our lesson. So we might not get excused when the 70 years are up?!] The LORD [Yahweh] did not hesitate to bring the disaster upon us, for the LORD our God is righteous in everything he does; yet we have not obeyed him” (vv.12-14).

Daniel knows why they are in Babylon. He has not forgotten why they are in Babylon. It’s because of Who God is. He is righteous. He is holy. He keeps His promises, and that means that He keeps His threats.

And so Daniel prays. And he prays. And he prays. Three times a day with the windows open, facing towards Jerusalem. Daniel is not worried about whether he’ll get eaten by lions. He’s worried his people will not repent and be restored to the land!

So he’s repenting and praying that they will be restored to the land. Daniel asks God to forgive Israel.

And notice how he does it. Look at verse 15.

“‘Now, O Lord our God, who brought your people out of Egypt with a mighty hand and who made for yourself a name that endures to this day, we have sinned, we have done wrong. O Lord, in keeping with all your righteous acts, turn away your anger and your wrath from Jerusalem, your city, your holy hill. Our sins and the iniquities of our fathers have made Jerusalem and your people an object of scorn to all those around us.

‘Now, our God, hear the prayers and petitions of your servant. For your sake, O Lord, look with favor on your desolate sanctuary. Give ear, O God, and hear; open your eyes and see the desolation of the city that bears your Name. [Daniel is 600 some miles away, and he’s pleading for Jerusalem.] We do not make requests of you because we are righteous, but because of your great mercy. O Lord, listen! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, hear and act! For your sake, O my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name’” (vv.15-19).

Do you hear it? What does Daniel use for an argument when he asks God to forgive and restore his people? Why should He?! Is it because Israel is so wonderful? Is it because Israel is so righteous? “We do not make requests of you because we are righteous!” As if!

But why? For God’s own sake! For God’s own name. For God’s own reputation. Daniel says, “You are so merciful. You brought us up out of Egypt. You love to save! You love to forgive. You’re famous for it! This city and these people bear your Name.”

Daniel prays based on the name and character and reputation of God Himself. Daniel knows how God loves His own glory and will always in act in accordance with it. So he prays based on God’s glory.

Dare to be a Daniel and ask God to do great things based on God’s great glory!

He says, “For your sake!” “Do these things for us for your own sake.”

Do we pray that way? We definitely should. Because God does care deeply about His own glory. We’re not tricking Him when we do this. We aren’t demanding anything based on His glory. We aren’t in a position to demand anything. But we plead His character. We plead His name. We plead His heart back to Him, and...He answers.

I’ve got three points this morning, and they are will be very obvious, and they are very wonderful. 

#1. THE LORD DOES LISTEN.

Daniel prays like this because he knows God hears and responds. God is not impassive or uncaring or unfeeling. od is a Rock because He’s dependable, but He’s a Rock Who listens. And answers!

Do you know how God answered this prayer of Daniel’s? Within a year of Daniel’s prayer, the High King of Persia, King Cyrus issued a decree that the Jews could go home. They were allowed to leave Babylon and head back to Israel if they wanted to. About 50,000 of them did. Read about it in the Book of Ezra, especially chapters 1 and 2. Ezra makes it clear that it was because God moved in Cyrus’ heart that they were allowed to go home. In order to fulfill the word of the LORD spoken by Jeremiah.

And you know what else they were allowed to take home with them? The gold and silver articles that Nebuchadnezzar had taken from the temple and Belshazzar had partied with! The Lord does listen.

And that’s not all. That’s not the half of it. Look at verse 20 to see how the Lord responded to Daniel’s prayer! V.20 

“While I was speaking and praying, confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel and making my request to the LORD my God for his holy hill–while I was still in prayer, Gabriel, the man I had seen in the earlier vision, came to me in swift flight about the time of the evening sacrifice” (vv.20-21).

“Well, hello, Gabriel! Welcome back.”

It’s been over a decade since the vision of chapter 8. And all of a sudden, the angel Gabriel has shown up again looking like a man. It’s not even clear if this is a vision or a visitation–like he will do a few hundred years to a virgin named Mary.

I love this picture of Gabriel in motion while Daniel is praying! Zooming in. “Swift flight.” [Some versions have “in my extreme weakness” in verse 21, and that’s quite a possible translation of the Hebrew based upon a different understanding of the underlying root word. That would indicate how wiped out Daniel was with his serious prayers. But regardless, Gabriel swoops in and shows up, while Daniel was praying.] Listen to what he says. Verse 22.

“[Gabriel] instructed me and said to me, ‘Daniel, I have now come to give you insight and understanding. As soon as you began to pray, an answer was given, which I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed. Therefore, consider the message and understand the vision:”

The Lord does listen!

I’m not saying that this is how all prayers work. Like as soon as we begin to pray, God is sending someone to do something about it. And even if it is, it doesn’t seem that way. We will often have to wait. But it shows how responsive God can be, and that He’s listening.

And look at what Gabriel says about how God sees Daniel. “You are highly esteemed.” “You are treasured. You are beloved. You are precious to God.”

I don’t know about you, but that gives me great incentive to pray.

PRAY.

This gives me great incentive to get serious about praying. To get on my knees. I’ve been kneeling more when I pray since reading chapter 6. I want to do it more.

This gives me great incentive to pray the scriptures back to God. Daniel read Jeremiah and started to pray Jeremiah back to God. We can do that, too! Whatever you are reading in your daily time in the Bible, you can just turn that back around and aim it back at God. So if you are reading 1 John, for example. And it says, “If we confess our sins, [God] is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness” (1 Jn. 1:9). And you get on your knees and say, “Lord, I have sinned in this way and this way today. But you are faithful and just. Please forgive me of these sins and purify me from all unrighteousness.”

Dare to be a Daniel and pray the Scriptures back at God.

He would love it!

And dare to be a Daniel and pray for God’s sake.

We can present our requests to God and argue for them based on how they would bring God glory.

What’s something that you are praying for right now? When you pray for it, tie your request to how answering that request might bring God glory. How it might show His character and reveal His heart. If you can’t think of any way that it would bring Him glory, then you probably shouldn’t be praying for it in the first place.

If you can’t say, “Please do this for your name’s sake,” then don’t ask for it. But if you can, then do! Because the Lord does listen.

Maybe you’re praying for a new job.
Maybe you’re praying for a relationship to be restored.
Maybe you’re praying for healing.
Maybe you’re praying for the breaking of a sinful habit.

I can see how any of those could bring God glory. Let’s pray for them. Because the Lord does listen.

#2. THE LORD DOES FORGIVE.

Daniel knew that! Daniel knew that the Lord delights in showing mercy. He said it in verse 9. That’s like part of His name that He revealed to Moses. “The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin” (Exod. 34:6-7).

Daniel knew that he wasn’t praying to some implacable god Who would not respond in grace when His people turned away from their sin and turn to Him.

No, Daniel knew that God was rich in mercy (Ephesians 2) and delights to forgive His people when they repent.

REPENT. 

Dare to be a Daniel and pray prayers of repentance and confession.

Dare to be a Daniel and ask God for mercy and grace.

Daniel has not lost sight of why his people are in this predicament, but we often do. It’s so hard sometimes to see our own sin. Our own complicity. Our own duplicity. This chapter encourages you and me to own up to our own black hats. 

We don’t have to wear sackcloth and ashes. Though it might be a good idea from time to time to fast to intensify our prayers of repentance. But we should take stock of our actions and attitudes and confess them to the Lord.

And we should, at some level, confess our connection to the sins of the wider church. Daniel (v.20) confessed his own sin and the sin of his people. And that’s probably a model for us, as well. Confessing the sins of “sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like” that have at times crept into the church and been unchecked (see Galatians 5:19-21). Maybe we didn’t do those things ourselves. But we are connected to those who have.

And we confess them and ask for God’s forgiveness. And we are assured of His pardon! Because we know we are loved. We know that we are, like Daniel, “highly esteemed.” We are beloved. We are, because of Jesus, God’s “chosen people, holy and dearly loved” (Colossians 3:12).

It’s because were are loved that we can repent! And know that we will be forgiven.

What do you need to confess to the Lord today?

Hear the word of LORD: “‘For I know the plans I have for you,’ declares the LORD, ‘plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart” (Jer. 29:11-13).

Seek Him with all your heart. Give him the darkest, ugliest parts of your heart. And you will find grace!

Because He wants to give us grace more than we want to ask for it! He wants to deal with our sin much more than we do!

That is, in fact, part of the big point of the last four verses in this chapter, the prophecy that Gabriel brought with him to Daniel.

God sent Gabriel (v.22) to bring Daniel “insight and understanding.” He’s got another message and vision for Daniel.

And, like the rest of this chapter, it’s a little different. It’s all words. It’s not nightmarish images that fill Daniel’s mind. No IMAX this time. Which is less scary, but it’s even more difficult to interpret!

In fact, a lot of the commentaries I read this week said that these may be the four hardest verses in the whole Old Testament to interpret. Whole books have been written on just these four verses! One book I read had 8 different views on the interpretation of this section with a chart of all the details that stretched to 6 pages long!

But, thankfully, I have it all figured out, and I have the definitive 9th view to share with you today. (Just kidding!)

I did think that I could kind of master the different views and give you a run down on all of them, but it was too much for me to process and to keep straight in my head, and I’m sure I would get you lost.

Some things are very clear to me, but others are not at all.

So, this is where we need to again pull out the helpful phrase: “I don’t know, and that’s okay.” Actually, it might be better to say, “I’m not sure, and that’s okay.”

Now, some of you may be sure, and that’s okay, too. Some of you have studied this and have settled conclusions on what all is going on here. And that’s great. 

But you shouldn’t be surprised if we’re not all there yet. Because Bible-believing Christians have disagreed about the details in this section for a very long time. And what seems obvious to you doesn’t always seem obvious to everyone else.

I want to encourage everyone to study this passage in depth. It’s God’s Word and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness so that we are fully equipped for every good work (2 Timothy 3:16). Don’t be afraid to study this!

But don’t be surprised if it takes a long time and a lot of study to reach satisfying conclusions. 

Because we’re back to the problem of identification. There is no “this is that” here and “who is who.” I think that Gabriel may be actually somewhat enigmatic on purpose so Daniel gets the major outline, but the details get filled in over time so that some day we all look back and say, “Oh, that’s what God was saying in Daniel 9.” 

Let’s read it. Verses 24 through 27. Gabriel says, “Consider the message and understand the vision...”

“‘Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy. ‘Know and understand this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.' In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him’” (vv.24-27).

Here’s point number three and last. (I’m sure you’ve guessed it already.)

#3. THE LORD DOES ACT.

Daniel pleaded with the LORD in verse 19, “O Lord, listen! O Lord, forgive! O Lord, hear and act! For your sake, O my God, do not delay, because your city and your people bear your Name.'”

And the Lord sends the message back:

“I’ve got this. I’ve got a plan. And I’m going to do much more than just restore Israel to the land. I’m going to blow your mind with what I’m going to do!”

I think the big message of this vision is that the Lord has a perfect plan for fixing everything on His perfect timetable. And He’s doing it!

The Lord has a perfect plan for fixing everything on His own perfect schedule. And He’s working His plan.

Now, I think that Gabriel, in this vision, has good news and bad news for Daniel.

The good news is that God has a perfect plan and a perfect schedule, and it’s on schedule.

But the bad news that Daniel had to absorb was that it was going to take a lot longer than he feared.

Daniel had asked if the exile would be over in 70 years.

And what did God say? “More like 70 times 7.”

The exile began to end at the 70 year mark, but there was much more discipline and development to come.

Gabriel says (v.24), “Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city...”
Now, that’s confusing, for one thing, because we don’t know what a “seven” is. Some of your versions have the word “week” there.”

The Hebrews had a word like our word a “dozen” that means twelve somethings, but their word means “seven somethings.” It’s the word “shavua.”  “A seven.”  So a “seven” of days is a week. Right?

So what is this "a seven" of? It doesn’t say!

Now, most interpreters have thought that it must be a “seven” of years. And I think that’s very likely. It was 70 years that Jeremiah was predicting and Daniel was praying about. So this 70 “sevens” might well be 70 “sevens” of years. Like 490 years. But it’s weird. And I think that might point to it being a symbolic. It’s a symbol not a statistic.

So I’m not sure that we should expect this all to happen in exactly 490 literal years from some specific point. It might! It might also be round numbers. Or something else, a figure of completeness.

One reason for “seven” may be sabbatical years. In the Old Testament Law, the land was supposed get rest every seven years, and after every seven of those, they were supposed to have a year of Jubilee. And this would then be a seventy of “sevens” so that would be like a Jubilee of Jubilees! Ten times the Jubilee!

I’m not sure. But I am sure that I shouldn’t be too dogmatic about it. And I’m also sure that I’m supposed to be glad that even though it’s a lot more than 70, it’s still a fixed number!

“Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed...” There is a plan, and it’s for a fixed and limited time. It’s not going to go on forever.  The Lord has a perfect plan for fixing everything on His own perfect schedule. And He’s on schedule!

Look what He’s going to do in, in verse 24.

“Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people and your holy city to [1.] finish transgression, [2] to put an end to sin, [3] to atone for wickedness, [4] to bring in everlasting righteousness, [5] to seal up vision and prophecy and [6] to anoint the most holy.”

Doesn’t that sound wonderful?! Isn’t that everything?! The Lord has a perfect plan to fix everything. 

Daniel was asking God to forgive them. God says, “I’m going to forgive them, but I’m going to do something even better! I’m going to finish transgression! I’m going to put an end to sin, I’m going to atone for wickedness!” Sin will be dealt with once and for all! It will not only be paid for but covered over and gone.

I’m going “to bring in everlasting righteousness!” Where everything is righteous all the time and everywhere! Righteousness as far as the eye can see and beyond! Righteousness that never ends!!!

“I’m going to seal up vision and prophecy.” I don’t think that means hide it away. I think that means enact it. Secure it. Make it all come true.

“And I’m going to anoint the most holy.” Which could be the most holy place (like the temple) or most holy person (like the Messiah). [Some of your versions may have already made an interpretive decision on that.]

This is everything! This is all of the promises of the New Covenant that Jeremiah predicted. This is all of what the kingdom of God will be!

This is the kingdom of kingdoms, isn’t it? And Gabriel told Daniel that it’s on the way.

He just has to wait.

WAIT.

The Lord does act, but on His own timetable. So we have to wait.

Now, in verse 25, 26, and 27, Gabriel gives more details of what to expect along the way, but nearly all of them are difficult to identify with precision.

There are time markers. Different sets of “sevens.”

Seven “sevens” = 49. 
Sixty two “sevens” = 434
And one “seven” = 7

So that would add up to 490 years [if the "sevens" are years), but with different things happening at different times. And there may be gaps between (or even during) some of the sets of “sevens.” I had my calculator out all week trying to figure out all the numbers! 

And there are several different persons listed. And there is so much disagreement about who the particular persons are, in some of the instances, some Christians think a person is Jesus and some other Christians think that same person is the anti-Christ to come! (And many other suggestions.)

And it’s late, so we won’t get into all of that today. Maybe I’ll come back to it next week or teach about in a pop-up class some day.

But it is obvious that the Lord has a plan, isn’t it? 

We may not be able to understand all of the details.

When does the seventy “sevens” begin?
Who is the “ruler who will come?”
How does this all relate to the end times?

We may not be able to understand all of the details, but it’s obvious that God does. The Lord has a perfect plan to fix everything on His perfect timetable.

And every Christian believes that this plan centers on one figure in history that we can probably identify in verse 26:

“After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be cut off and will have nothing.”

Who do you think that is? The word for Anointed One is “Mashiach.” Or “Messiah.”

It sounds to me a lot like the Person described in Isaiah 53. “He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken” (vv.7-9).

The Lord has a perfect plan to fix everything on His perfect timetable. And He’s sent His perfect Son to enact it. The King of Kingdoms.

The Lord does act. So we just need to trust in and wait on Him. 

That doesn’t mean that we just sit on our hands. Our waiting is active. We stay busy and occupy until He comes. 

But we are expectant. Because we know that this chapter is not that different from the rest of the book. Daniel chapter 9 is not primarily about prophetic math but about our prayer-answering Lord.

We know that our Lord does listen to our prayers. He wants to answer them more than we want to pray them.

We know that our Lord does forgive our sins. He wants to forgive them more than we want to confess them! And He sent His own Son to be cut off to atone for them.

We know that our Lord does hear and act. Because He sent us Jesus once, and He will send Him back again soon. Just wait.


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Messages in This Series:

01. The King's Service - Daniel 1:1-21
02. The God of Heaven - Daniel 2:1-49
[Bonus Message: "No Matter What" - Daniel 3:1-30 from Family Bible Week 2012]
03. The God We Serve - Daniel 3:1-30
04. The King of Heaven - Daniel 4:1-37
05. The Lord of Heaven - Daniel 5:1-31
06. The Living God - Daniel 6:1-28
07. The Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:1-28

Sunday, March 16, 2025

“The Prince of Princes” [Matt's Messages]

“The Prince of Princes”
The King of Kingdoms - The Book of Daniel
Lanse Evangelical Free Church
March 16, 2025 :: Daniel 8:1-27  

You can just about guess what I’m going to say, right?

Daniel chapter 8 is about the “Prince of Princes.”

For the last 6 sermons in this series on the Book of Daniel, we have noticed a name for God that is used in that particular chapter and emphasized how that particular chapter is all about the God Who is revealed in that particular name, Who He is and what He is doing.


...and last Sunday, in the hinge chapter of this whole book, chapter 7, “The Ancient of Days.”

Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days!

Interestingly, a bunch of those names appear only in that chapter and that chapter alone in the Bible. And it’s the same with this name for God that shows up in verse 25.

“The Prince of Princes.”

It’s the same word for “Prince” as in “Prince of Peace” in Isaiah chapter 9. “Sar.” “Sar-Shalom.” Prince of Peace. “Sar-Sarim” Prince of Princes.

Sar” is a normal Hebrew word (and we’re back to Hebrew after 6 chapters of Aramaic!), for a Commander or a Ruler or a High Official. Somebody who is a Noble, a Chief, a Chieftain, an Overseer, a Key Leader. A prince among a people. But in verse 25, it’s clear that this is the Prince of all Princes. This is the Commander of all Commanders. The Chief of all Chieftains. It’s yet another name for the King of Kingdoms, Who is our Lord. And this chapter is (as all the Bible is) all about Him.

Now, again, that is obvious. But it’s also easy to miss because of all of this other stuff in the chapter. Wild stuff! Scary stuff! Confusing stuff. Important stuff! Everything in this chapter is important. But nothing is as important as the Prince of Princes. So as we study Daniel 8, keep your eyes on Him.


Daniel chapter 8 tells the story of another vision of Daniel that was very traumatic for him. Let’s read Daniel chapter 8, verses 1 and 2.

“In the third year of King Belshazzar's reign, I, Daniel, had a vision, after the one that had already appeared to me. In my vision I saw myself in the citadel of Susa in the province of Elam; in the vision I was beside the Ulai Canal.”

So, let’s start with the date. Daniel had another vision, after the one that we read about in the last chapter. Do you remember when that one was?  That one was during the first year of King Belshazzar’s reign. 

What kingdom was Belshazzar the king of? Babylon. Belshazzar was a successor to King Nebuchadnezzar and reigned from about 553 to 539BC. The writing was on the wall for Belshazzar in October of 539, at the end of chapter 5.

So this vision came two years after the vision of chapter 7. Daniel needed 2 years to recover from that vision, didn’t he?! Some of you are still recovering from last week’s sermon on it!

It’s not clear if this one was a dream or not. It may or may not have come while he was sleeping. However it came, it came from God.  And it appears that Daniel was transported in his vision to the citadel of Susa. Where was that?

The fortified city of Susa was in Persia. Daniel isn’t transported to the sea of chaos this time. He’s siting beside the Ulai Canal in Susa. 

Why do you think that might be a good place for Daniel to see this vision? Susa is the capitol of the next kingdom to arise. Susa is mentioned in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther, that tell the story of what happened next after the book of Daniel in the history of Israel. 

At this moment, in 550BC Susa isn’t that big and powerful, but it soon will be. So that’s where Daniel finds himself in the vision of chapter 8. Daniel is approximately 68, 69, 70 years old. Somewhere in there. He may have been in semi-retirement. He might have still had some responsibilities in Babylonian government. 

He’s already had the all-important vision of chapter 7 with its sweep of four monstrous kingdoms to come and the glorious, and holy, and wise Ancient of Days Who judges them all and gives the kingdom of kingdoms to one like a Son of Man, the cloud rider, Who then will give the kingdom to His people forever and ever, yes, forever.

And now Daniel has another vision, and it’s a vision of two great animals ramming into each other. Look at verse 3.

“I looked up, and there before me was a ram with two horns, standing beside the canal, and the horns were long. One of the horns was longer than the other but grew up later. I watched the ram as he charged toward the west and the north and the south. No animal could stand against him, and none could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great” (vv.3-5).

Got the picture in your head? (I imagine it like a giant Imax movie in his head.)

This is not quite like the vision of chapter 7. It is kind of like it because there is this animal that obviously means something. It’s apocalyptic imagery. It’s not saying that an actual ram will show up on the Earth but the ram stands for something that will come.

But it’s not really a hybrid creature like the beasts in chapter 7 with some parts of one animal and other parts of another. It’s just a ram.

But it’s not just a ram either, is it? It has two great big horns. One longer than the other, but it was the second horn to grow. That’s probably significant. And it charges all over the place: west, north, south, and it conquers and dominates everywhere. Unstoppable energy.

Until...verse 5.

“As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn between his eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground. He came toward the two-horned ram I had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him in great rage.

I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns [big and small]. The ram was powerless to stand against him; the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power” (vv5-7).
 
Do you see this picture in your head? 

Notice these are different animals from those in chapter 7. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it isn’t talking about the same things. But it is definitely from a different perspective. 

The ram is unbeatable. And then it gets beaten. By the goat. The goat has one giant horn between its eyes and runs so fast it flies! Like the Road Runner in Bugs Bunny. It goes so fast, it doesn’t even touch the ground!

And then...collision! What happens with the unstoppable force hits the immovable object? BAM! The ram goes down. Its horns are shattered. Whatever that ram was is no more.

And now nothing can stop the goat! G-O-A-T. Greatest of all time. Or so it thinks. And then all of a sudden it meets with disaster. Look at verse 8.

“The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven. [Okay it’s getting weird again. More horns.]

Out of one of them came another horn [a horn out of a horn], which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land.

It grew until it reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them.

[This horn of the goat trampled on some stars! You know you’re in a vision when that happens!]

It set itself up to be as great as the Prince [“sar”] of the host; it took away the daily sacrifice from him, and the place of his sanctuary was brought low.  Because of rebellion, the host of the saints and the daily sacrifice were given over to it. [This is the horn from the horn that started small.] It prospered in everything it did, and truth was thrown to the ground.

Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, ‘How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled–the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, and the surrender of the sanctuary and of the host that will be trampled underfoot?’ He said to me, ‘It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated’” (vv.8-14).

Wow. So much there! So much for Daniel to take in and try to process. 

Daniel can tell that this is a vision of the future. This is a prophecy of what was to come. And it sounds completely awful. In his vision, he hears an angel asking another angel, “How long is this going to last?” How long is this desolation going to continue? How long is the “host” the army (the people) going to be trampled by these animals?

And the answer is “2,300 evenings and mornings.” I wonder what that means. Daniel wonders what that means. He’s so confused. Whenever it was a pagan king’s dream, Daniel could explain it. But he needed even more help to understand his own. Look at verse 15.

“While I, Daniel, was watching the vision and trying to understand it, there before me stood one who looked like a man. And I heard a man's voice from the Ulai calling, ‘Gabriel, tell this man the meaning of the vision’” (vv.15-16).

Yes, that Gabriel! One of only two angels whose names are revealed in the Bible. Who’s the other one? [Michael. He’s going to show up in chapter 10.]

Hey, Stay Sharpers, what do we call it when an angel appears in the Bible? Greg told us this week that it’s an “angelophany.” We have an angelophany in verse 17. The angel who one day would appear to a virgin named Mary and tell her about a baby she was going to have now appears to the wiseman Daniel and tells him about some terrible trouble that is brewing for his people. Look at verse 17.

“As [Gabriel] came near the place where I was standing, I was terrified and fell prostrate. ‘Son of man,’ he said to me [there it just means human], ‘understand that the vision concerns the time of the end.’ While he was speaking to me, I was in a deep sleep, with my face to the ground. Then he touched me and raised me to my feet. He said: ‘I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath, because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end” (vv.17-19).

It must have been quite the experience to run into Gabriel! Daniel is scared into a coma! But Gabriel touches him, and he pulls up him and tells him that he’s going to explain the vision to him. And Gabriel says it has something to do with the “time of the end.” Now, that could just mean the “end” of this vision, like how this vision will  come together and be completed in history. I think that’s actually likely the meaning here. But it could also mean that this vision has something to do paradigmatically, with the end-times, with the end of history. It could be both.

And I’ve got some good news for you. Gabriel is going to actually name names and say what is what and who is who in this vision! He doesn’t explain it all, but he does give Daniel some important identifications. Look at verse 20.

“The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia. The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king.”

Let’s stop there for just a second because this is big. We aren’t left to guess  who these animals represent. They represent kings and their kingdoms. By now, that should not be a big surprise.

But Gabriel actually tells us which kings and which kingdoms! So far, the only one that we’ve been clearly told is that the gold head on the statue of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in chapter 2 is Nebuchadnezzar and the kingdom of Babylon. We’ve been going on guesswork and deduction for all the rest. But here we know.

Which kingdom is the ram? The Medes and the Persians. The double-kingdom. The team-up kingdom. Look back at verse 3 and see how that tracks.

“I looked up, and there before me was a ram with two horns [double-kingdom], standing beside the canal, and the horns were long. One of the horns was longer than the other but grew up later [What could that mean? Probably the longer horn is the Persian side of that kingdom. The Medes were first but King Cyrus and the Persians side grew to dominate the whole]. I watched the ram as he charged toward the west and the north and the south [from Persia in the East]. No animal could stand against him, and none could rescue from his power. He did as he pleased and became great” (vv.3-5).

And where was this? In Susa where Cyrus’ power was beginning to grow at the time of this vision. And in about 10 or 11 years, Darius the Mede would conquer Babylon and kill Belshazzar one October night. And then this double-kingdom would rule over the whole world for more than 200 years! The biggest kingdom there had ever been in the known world. 

Nothing could stop them! Until something did.

Isn’t it amazing that God would tell Daniel more than a decade before it happened that the Medes and the Persians (in this symbol of a ram) would conquer the whole world?! But that’s nothing! Because, next, Gabriel tells Daniel the identity of the goat, as well. Look at verse 21 again.

“The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between his eyes is the first king.”

Now, this is more than some people can believe. Some people cannot believe that God would tell Daniel that the Greeks were going to become the major world power more than 200 years before it happened. Many unbelieving scholars have decided that this must have been written during the Greek era. And that these are not predictions. They are just cast as predictions of things that have already happened.

Not that that’s proven. It’s just assumed. It’s just that they can’t believe in real, true predictive prophecy. “That’s impossible!”

But I don’t think it’s impossible, at all. At least, not for the God we’ve been reading about for the last 8 chapters!

#1. THE PRINCE OF PRINCES IS SOVEREIGN.

He controls the future, and He can tell us about it whenever He wants to!

When Daniel gets this vision, Greece is next to nothing. Persia isn’t even that big yet! But there is coming a day when Greece will conquer all. 

And what was the name of the Greek that conquered all? We mentioned him last week. We call him “Alexander the Great.” And it’s all but certain (though Gabriel does not actually say) that Alexander is the goat’s large horn. Gabriel calls him in verse 21, “the first king.” Alexander conquered the whole world in about ten years. That’s probably what is meant in the vision by how the goat crossed the whole earth without touching the ground (in verse 5). Alexander collided with the Persians, and the Persians did not get back up.

And Alexander’s kingdom extended even further. His kingdom reached all the way to India. He had 1.5 million square miles under his rule. He was the GOAT! And then he died. Around age 33. And his wife Roxanne and teenage son were assassinated so his kingdom was divided up into four little kingdoms under four lesser kings.

Verse 22 says, “The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.”

Alexander’s successors were named Cassander, Lysimachus, Ptolemy, and Seleucus. Last week, we said they might have been the four heads of the like-a-leopard beast. These four kings will not come on the scene for another 220 years from this day when Daniel has his vision and Gabriel tells him what it means!

The Prince of Princes is sovereign over all kingdoms. He’s the King of Kingdoms! That’s the whole point of this book. And a big part of what He’s doing here is showing that off! These kingdoms seem so big and powerful. They seem unstoppable. They are cruel and conquering. A ram and a goat. And they will dominate the people Daniel loves for hundreds of years. But they don’t last forever. They only seem unstoppable. The second that God is done with them, they are stopped. The ram goes down. The goat’s horn gets snapped off. As powerful as they are, they aren’t really that big of a deal. If you just wait a little bit, they will fall off the scene. Because the Prince of Princes is sovereign. 

I think the application of that is to BE FOREWARNED. God is getting His people ready for what is to come. God is reminding them that He is in control of the future. He is in control of all of the kings and kingdoms to come. And that’s true for us today, as well.

As far as I can can see, the events predicted in Daniel chapter 8 are future for Daniel but largely in the past for you and me. Daniel chapter 8 is mostly about the Ram and the Goat which are the second and third kingdoms in my take on the different visions we’ve looked at so far in the book.


In chapter 2, we had Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of the metallic statue. Each metal was a king/dom. Head of Gold, Chest of Silver, Belly of Bronze, Legs of Iron, and 10 Toes of Iron and Clay.

And then we added in the beasts of chapter 7 and saw possible parallels between the two.

Like a Lion, Like a Bear, Like a Leopard, Unlike Anything, 10 Horns.

Now, if those correlations are right [And they are just deductions; I might have lots of things wrong!], then the Ram and the Goat would match up with the second and third kingdoms like this. 

So in chapter 8, it’s like a vision that “double clicks” on the middle of the vision of chapter 7 and gives you even more detail about that particular time period.

Future for Daniel and largely past for us.

So, if that’s true, why would you and I need to read about it today?

I mean that’s ancient history. Literally! This vision was fulfilled by 164BC.

Because it shows that if the Prince of Princes accurately predicted the future then, then we can trust what He says about the future still to come now. Amen?

And if He was in ultimate control of world events then? The Medo-Persian Ram and the Grecian Goat?

Then He is in ultimate control of the Russian Bear, the Chinese Dragon, the North Korean Winged Horse (Chollima), the British Bulldog, and the American Eagle. And all of the rest of the zoo.

Kingdoms come and kingdoms go. And the Prince of Princes is sovereign over all.

Be forewarned. Don’t worry. Don’t be shaken. He’s got the whole world in His hands.

Daniel needed to hear this because some terrible things were going to come in the future. Life was going to get downright animalistic for his people. And that’s the point of the horn that came from the horn in verse 9. Remember what it said? 

“Out of one of [the goat’s 4 replacement horns] came another horn, which started small but grew in power to the south and to the east and toward the Beautiful Land.”

Now, Gabriel does not tell us this horn’s name in history. But he does tell us a lot about him. Remember a horn is a king. It represents the strength of an animal. 

This horn starts out small but grows and grows in power even towards “The Beautiful” which almost certainly means the land of Israel. Palestine. The glorious beloved homeland of Daniel which he has not seen with his own eyes in over half a century.

This horn comes to directly rule over Israel. And I think that verses 23 through 26 tell us the terrible kinds of things that he does:

“‘In the latter part of their [the goat’s four replacement horns’] reign, when rebels have become completely wicked, a stern-faced king [“fierce, merciless”], a master of intrigue [a manipulator, a deceiver], will arise. He will become very strong, but not by his own power [Satanic power!]. He will cause astounding devastation and will succeed in whatever he does. He will destroy the mighty men and the holy people. He will cause deceit to prosper, and he will consider himself superior. When they feel secure, he will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes...”

#2. THE PRINCE OF PRINCES IS OPPOSED.

This king dares to “take his stand against the Prince of Princes.” The Sar-Sarim. Can you believe it?!

He is not the first, and I don’t think he’s the last either.

Though some people do. Some people think that these verses are about the person we talked about last week who is sometimes called the “Antichrist” or the “Man of Lawlessness” or the “Beast” in Revelation.

And that’s quite possible! I mean, when you read this, you see that figure, don’t you? This is one terrible king. One of the worst that the Jews especially have ever known.

But if my deductions are correct, this is not the Antichrist who may be on rise right now or still to come one day soon. Most scholars agree that this is the awful Greek King Antiochus IV Epiphanes. I mentioned him last week.

This terrible horn is a lot like the terrible horn we read about in chapter 7 last week, but there are some key differences. The biggest is that the bad horn in chapter 7 appears on the fourth terrifying beast, the “different” one which I suggested is probably the kingdom of Rome or Rome “plus.” Maybe end-times Rome. But this horn in chapter 8 appears during what seems more like the “third beast” kingdom in chapter 7 and the “silver” kingdom in chapter 2.

If this was correct, then this bad horn of chapter 8 shows up during the Kingdom of Greece. And there is a Greek king that almost perfectly fits the bill. Antiochus IV Epiphanes. Let me tell you about him.

Antiochus IV was related to Seleucus, one of the four king that took over from Alexander. But he wasn’t next in line. His nephew was. But Antiochus was a “master of intrigue.” He manipulated the system and deceptively stole the throne. And Antiochus ruled ruthlessly and mercilessly. And he ruled over Israel (175BC to 164 BC). A dozen of the worst years the Beautiful Land had ever experienced.

In 170 BC, Antiochus killed the High Priest Onias in Jerusalem. And later he stopped the daily sacrifices in the temple of the LORD. He decided that he wanted everyone to worship Greek gods and not the Jewish One. He set up altars throughout Israel to Greek gods. He told the Jews that they could no longer observe the Sabbath or circumcise their baby boys. And if they did, they would be killed! And their circumcised babies would be hung around their necks when they were buried.

I read about all of this in a history book called 1 Maccabees this week. It was written between the Old Testament and the New. And it says that Antiochus went into the temple, and sacrificed a pig on the altar. And put some kind of Zeus statue in the Holy of Holies. He didn’t destroy the temple, but he desecrated it. Brought it low (v.11). And he burned copies of the holy scriptures. “Truth was thrown to the ground” (v.12). And he killed thousands of Jews.

He may not have been the antichrist, but he was sure trying to be.

Antiochus called himself, “Epiphanes.” Does anybody know what that means? It means “The Manifestation.” If Antiochus didn’t think he was a god, he was sure saying that could manifest god. He Antiochus made certain that these pagan sacrifices took place on his birthday every year. 

Antiochus set himself up against the Lord! And he did it by setting himself against the Lord’s people. I think that’s the point of the symbolism back in verse 10. How the horn “reached the host of the heavens, and it threw some of the starry host down to the earth and trampled on them.”

I think that’s apocalyptic symbolism for the people of God. Antiochus didn’t literally thrown down any stars. But he sure did trample on God’s people. In the words of verse 24, he destroyed “the mighty men and the holy people.”

Antiochus was one of the worst persecutors that the Jews had ever known.  And if you fight against God’s people, then you are fighting against God. If you are setting yourself against God’s people, the you are setting yourself against God.

Remember when God arrested Saul on the road to Damascus? Remember what he said? “Saul, Saul why do you persecute...the church?” No, He said, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?” Because as Saul opposed the church, Saul was opposing the Prince of Princes!

And that was true in Daniel’s day, Antiochus’ day, Saul’s day, and our day.

The Prince of Princes is opposed. And here’s the application of that truth: BE FORTIFIED.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed, right? To be ready for the onslaught, ready for the attack.

Because of this vision, Israel could steel themselves for what was coming. If they were paying attention, their persecution would not come as a surprise. 

And in their case, they were able to fight back, literally. A courageous Jewish family called the Maccabees organized a resistance movement. Unlike the Jews in Jeremiah’s day who were supposed to submit to exile, these Jews were not commanded to submit and were free to revolt. 

And they were successful! Over a three and a half year period, they beat back Antiochus’ forces and took back the temple! And they cleansed it and they rededicated it to the worship of Yahweh, our LORD. That was in 164 BC. And the people of Israel celebrated that reconsecration with a new Jewish festival of dedication.

You know what they called it? “Hanukkah.”

I’m certain that this vision of Daniel fortified their hearts for that day. And we need to fortify our hearts for our day. Not that we will fight back against those who persecute us, taking up the literal sword. But we won’t be surprised when persecution comes upon us either, as if something totally unusual and unexpected were happening to us (1 Peter 4:12). 

We know that the Prince of Prince is opposed and so will we be. We know, as our Stay Sharpers learned again this week, we are in the midst of a spiritual battle. And it’s going to get worse.

Antiochus was the worst up to that point. But he was just a foretaste of evil to come. I think that’s how this chapter (in the words of Gabriel in verse 17) “concerns the time of the end.” 

Antiochus IV Epiphanes was a pre-figurement of the antichrist to come. His persecution was a pattern, a paradigm, anticipating the evil still on the way.

But, church, here’s the good news. The good news is our Lord never loses. Yes, the Prince of Princes is opposed. But!

#3. THE PRINCE OF PRINCES IS UNDEFEATED.

Look at the end of verse 25!

“When they feel secure, he [Antiochus IV Epiphanes probably?] will destroy many and take his stand against the Prince of princes...Yet he will be destroyed, but not by human power.” Literally, “with nothingness of hand.”

Yes, the Maccabees pushed back, but they didn’t kill Antiochus. Antiochus was far from Palestine in 164 BC, and one day he took sick and then died. He didn’t die in battle. No human hand killed him. One day, the Lord just took him. Reminds me of that stone that was cut out of that mountain in the king’s dream, knocking over the metals statue and turning it to dust.

“Not by human power.” But by divine power!

Our LORD never loses. Sometimes it seems like it. Verses 10 and 11 sure seemed to describe a time coming when the LORD was on the ropes. It sure seemed like it when Jesus was dying on the Cross.

But the LORD is the Ancient of Days. He doesn’t lose. It’s not really even a contest. It’s terrible what God’s people have to go through, but there is always a reason for it and there will always be an end to it. 

In this case, it was 2,300 evenings and mornings. The angels asked “How long?”, and the answer was “2,300 evenings and mornings” (vv.13-14).

And there’s been a lot of debate about what that means. It could simply mean a period of about 6 years which would map on pretty well from Antiochus killing the high priest in 170 to the temple being restored in December of 164 (see 1 Macc 4:52-59).

Or it could mean actually evening and morning sacrifices which would halve the days to 1150 which is more like 3 years. More like the time when the sacrifices were actually stopped to the time when they began again. 

And there are other views, too, of course. [Fascinatingly, the Millerites, who came to be known as the Seventh Day Adventists took the 2300 days as year and calculated that the Lord would return in 1843-44. (Not what happened.)]

I think what’s really important for us to remember is that God had set the days and times. They might have seemed long but they were limited.

The world is not out of His control! And so we can be self-controlled.

Here’s the application of this point: BE FAITHFUL.

Because we know that our Lord never loses, we can keep on doing whatever He has told to do. 

Because He can’t fail, we can’t fail!

That’s the logic of 1 Corinthians 15:58 isn’t it? The Bible says, “Therefore [because of the resurrection], my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.”

What can they can do to us? Kill us? Chop off our head? Burn us to death. Yes, they can. But so what? We are coming back from the dead. Jesus did! We can’t lose.

Because He can’t fail, we can’t fail! And so we can be faithful. Don’t give up and don’t give in! Be faithful.

Look at see what Daniel did when Gabriel was done talking. Look at verse 26.

“‘The vision of the evenings and mornings that has been given you is true, but seal up the vision, for it concerns the distant future.’ I, Daniel, was exhausted and lay ill for several days. Then I got up and went about the king's business. I was appalled by the vision; it was beyond understanding” (vv.26-27).

This vision was so traumatic for Daniel. He couldn’t believe what he was seeing. He didn’t understand it (1 Peter 4:10-11). He didn’t want to understand it. He had gotten a glimpse of Antiochus IV Epiphanes, and it made him sick. He was comatose in bed for several days.

But see what he did as soon as he was up to it? He got up and “went about the king’s business.”

I think that’s amazing! He did what he always did. He got up, got dressed, and went to work. He put the next foot in front of the other. He did the next thing that needed done. 

He was faithful in the service of King Belshazzar, knowing about these other kings that are were going to come and trample over everything.

He sealed up the vision. I don’t think that necessarily means it was secret. I think that means it was saved. Like he hit the “saved” button on his computer. Maybe “save as a PDF” so that it lasts until the distant future when it needs to come out and be used. 375 years later when Antiochus is raging, they need Daniel 8, and there it is. Because Daniel faithfully sealed it up!

Dare to be a Daniel and be faithful in the king’s service even when you know everything is going to come unglued.

And not just faithful in the service of pagan King Belshazzar but even more so in faithful in the service of the King of Kingdoms, the Sar-Sarim, the Prince of Princes who is undefeated now and forever will be.


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Messages in This Series:

01. The King's Service - Daniel 1:1-21
02. The God of Heaven - Daniel 2:1-49
Bonus Message: "No Matter What" - Daniel 3:1-30 from Family Bible Week 2012
03. The God We Serve - Daniel 3:1-30
04. The King of Heaven - Daniel 4:1-37
05. The Lord of Heaven - Daniel 5:1-31
06. The Living God - Daniel 6:1-28
07. The Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:1-28

Sunday, March 09, 2025

“The Ancient of Days” [Matt's Messages]

“The Ancient of Days”
The King of Kingdoms - The Book of Daniel
Lanse Evangelical Free Church
March 9, 2025 :: Daniel 7:1-28  

Daniel chapter 7 is about “The Ancient of Days.”

As all of the other chapters that we’ve studied so far, this chapter is all about Who God is and what He is doing.

And the main name for God in Daniel chapter 7 is “The Ancient of Days.”  This name appears in verse 9, verse 13, and verse 22. And this is the only place in the whole Bible where that particular name for God shows up.

“The Ancient of Days.” The One who is from all eternity. The Eternal God. Which is mind-blowing, I know! Just thinking about the concept of eternity is a mind-blower. And this is a Person Who is eternal. “The Ancient of Days.” 

Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days.

That’s important to keep in mind as we read Daniel chapter 7 because even though it’s kind of obvious, it’s also kind of easy to miss. Because we can so easily begin to focus on the other wild and wonderful things that also show up in Daniel chapter 7.

As with the rest of this book, the point of Daniel 7 is not Daniel the wiseman. He is in chapter 7. Daniel actually is the one human character that carries through the last half of this book. The four big visions of Daniel! But Daniel the wiseman would be the first to say that Daniel 7 is not about Daniel the wiseman!

And it’s also not about these beasts! They are there, and they are terrifying, but they are not the point. And correctly identifying who these beasts are in real life is also not the point. As interesting and edifying as it may be to try to piece it all together, the fantastic beasts of Daniel 7 are not the point of Daniel 7.

And neither is the identity of the “little horn” of verse 8 and verse 11, and verse 20-26. I’ll tell you what I think that is, but whatever it is, it is not the point of Daniel 7. The point of Daniel 7 is the Ancient of Days. 

And, yes, there is one other character that Daniel 7 is all about, and that’s especially true because of His special relationship with the Ancient of Days. We’ll get there in due course.

Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days as we study Daniel chapter 7.


Daniel 7 tells the story of a horrific and hope-filled dream that Daniel had.

We’ve read about a bunch of dreams so far in the Book of Daniel, but they were all the dreams of the king. But now it’s Daniel’s turn to dream. Look at verse 1.

“In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon, Daniel had a dream, and visions passed through his mind as he was lying on his bed. He wrote down the substance of his dream.”

We’ve reached the second half of the Book of Daniel, and it’s going to very different, in some ways, from the first half. The first half, the first six chapters, was full of stories. Especially stories about kings and their courts. This second half, the last six chapters, are going to be full of prophetic visions. Four major revelatory visions all seen by Daniel the wiseman. Chapter 7, chapter 8, chapter 9, and then chapters 10-12 contain the four visions. 

These chapters have a different feel to them. If you thought the first six chapters were wild, hold onto your seats! And yet, this is not a different book. This is the same book. It has the same author. It has the same themes. It has the same message. And it has the same two languages.

Remember how we said that Daniel was written in two cousin languages, Hebrew and what? Aramaic, which was the international language of the day. There are 6 chapters in Hebrew and 6 chapters in Aramaic. What language is chapter 7 written in? 

It’s Aramaic. Chapter 1 was in Hebrew. Chapters 2 through 7 are in Aramaic. And one of the things that does is show us that this is all one book. And chapter 7 is the hinge chapter that the whole book turns on.

And, of course, there were also visions in the first half. Chapter 7 is a lot like chapter 2. We will see how the dream of Daniel in chapter 7 reminds us a lot of the dream of Nebuchadnezzar back in chapter 2.

Now, when was this dream? Verse 1 says that was “In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon.”

So chapter 7 is a flashback, isn’t it? It takes place before which chapters? It’s before chapter 6. That was King Darius the Mede. Is it before chapter 5? Yes, it is. Because that was King Belshazzar’s last day as king. His feast with the writing on the wall on the day he died in October of 539BC.

Daniel had this dream about 14 years before that. The first year of Belshazzar was probably 553BC.  Daniel was middle-aged then. Maybe 66 or 67? He might have been in his first retirement. Maybe trying to live a quiet life. Praying three times and day and living for the glory of God and the good of his people.

And one night between chapter 4 and chapter 5, Daniel had a dream. And it was a doozy. This dream shook Daniel to his core. And it was clearly from God. I don’t know exactly how he knew, but he knew this dream was a revelation. So he wrote it down. Look at verse 2.

“Daniel said: ‘In my vision at night I looked, and there before me were the four winds of heaven churning up the great sea. Four great beasts, each different from the others, came up out of the sea” (vv.1-2).

This was part of the dream was like a nightmare. Daniel is by the sea, maybe the Mediterranean. And there is a giant storm. The four wild winds of heaven mean from every corner of the earth–north, south, east, and west–and the sea is all churned up. Waves crashing everywhere!

We’ve learned before to the Hebrews the sea was a symbol of chaos. It’s uncontrollable and often felt to be a picture of human evil seemingly out of hand. You set out into that sea, and you will never return.

And then out of that caldron of chaos arises four beasts. Four monsters! These four horrific creatures come, one, then another, then another, and then another up out of the swirling storm of a sea.

There is no way of capturing how scary this part of the dream was. We have our CGI and our special effects. We have photoshop, but everything we make with those things is tame compared to this. We cannot depict how terrifying and fearsome and nightmarish this was for Daniel. It’s like a horror movie without any of the “fun.”

And Daniel knows that it all means something. Here’s the first beast. Verse 4.

“‘The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a man, and the heart of a man was given to it.”

It’s a hybrid-composite creature. Picture a lion, like Daniel was going to spend the night with in chapter 6. But this lion has wings like an eagle! And then the wings are torn off and the lion stands on two feet like a human and gets a human heart. What?!

And then the next beast. Verse 5.

“And there before me was a second beast, which looked like a bear. It was raised up on one of its sides, and it had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. It was told, 'Get up and eat your fill of flesh!'”
Notice that they are not a lion or a bear but are like one. This creature is like a bear, and it’s kind of laying on its side, and it’s just eaten another creature–three ribs are all that’s left–and it’s wiping its mouth and going to back to the buffet for more.

But the dream moves onto the third beast. V.6 

“‘After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.”

Four wings and four heads on a creature like a leopard?! And somebody is giving it authority to rule. Is that what you want ruling over you?! A voracious leopard with four heads? You can’t escape from that. It can see in all directions and eat you in all directions! And reach you in seconds. Because it has four wings! And that’s nothing. Wait until you read about the fourth beast. Verse 7.

“After that, in my vision at night I looked [he’s always looking, looking, looking in this chapter], and there before me was a fourth beast–terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.”

Are you scared yet? You’re supposed to be. Daniel was!

He knows that this is all symbolism. This is not saying that there will be these kind of creatures arise on Earth like a Godzilla movie or something. But he knows that they all mean something, and what they mean is truly terrifying.

What kind of an animal is this fourth beast like? Daniel doesn’t say. He can’t come up with an animal to liken this beast to. He has to go with adjectives. “Terrifying and frightening and very powerful.” All he can say is that it had teeth that were metal! They were made of iron! What kind of beast has iron teeth?

He says this one is “different.” It’s the apex predator of all apex predators.

It’s in a class by itself. It’s completely hideous and cruel and violent and ravenous. Look what it does. “It crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left.” Devastation wherever it goes.

And it has ten horns. Horns, in the Bible, are a symbol of power. This one has ten horns. That’s a multiplied strength. This is one super-powerful beast.

I think that one of the reasons why Daniel was so peaceful in chapter 6 was because he had lived through this dream which was far scarier than being thrown to the lions.

Daniel sees one more scary thing. It’s an eleventh horn. You thought the first ten were bad, but look at number eleven. Verse 8.

“While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a man and a mouth that spoke boastfully.”

I can’t think what this was like. There’s this terrible super-beast with ten horns, and then this one horn pops up among the other horns and pushes three of the horns out of it’s way, and this horn has eyes? And a mouth? And the eyes are like a man’s? Is that intelligent? Or greedy? And the mouth is speaking boastfully. Spouting off all kinds of things. Arrogantly. Probably blasphemously. Lies. 

No wonder Daniel is disturbed (v.15)! This is much scarier than Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in chapter 2.

But this chapter is not about these beasts. This chapter is about the Ancient of Days. In verse 9, everything changes.

“‘As I looked, ‘thrones were set in place, and the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of his head was white like wool. His throne was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze. A river of fire was flowing, coming out from before him. Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The court was seated, and the books were opened’” (vv.9-10).

Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days.

I have three points this morning to try to summarize this chapter, and here’s the first one:

#1. THE ANCIENT OF DAYS WAS, IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE GOD ENTHRONED OVER ALL.

Daniel has seen these terrible beasts in this terrible storm. But then he see this throne room with the Ancient of Days on the throne. It emphasizes that He is seated. It says it verse 9 and again in verse 10.

“He took his seat.”

The picture is one of ultimate authority. And eternal authority. This Person is the Judge. And He is un-bothered by the animals. He is un-bothered by the monsters. He is just sitting there. He’s not like, “Ooh. No! Look at those scary creatures.” He’s not standing on His throne, clutching his robes. No, He is seated.

He’s not threatened the slightest. In fact, He’s the One threatening. He’s so perfect! He’s so pure.

Right? You see that in verse 9. “His clothing was a white as snow. The hair of his head was white like wool.” White is pure. 

By the way, this is not saying that God actually looks like this. This is a dream. This is a vision. These are symbols. This is apocalyptic imagery. They are telling us who God is--not what God looks like--by telling us what He looks like in the vision. Does that make sense?

He’s pure! He’s so pure. He’s holy, holy, holy. His throne is flaming with fire. I don’t know what that means! And it’s got wheels. This is a moving throne. Like a chariot? It’s like the throne in Ezekiel one. Wheels within wheels. These wheels are on fire!

And there is fire that comes out from Him. Like a river of fire? Like lava? I don’t know. But it means He’s holy! And He’s full of wrath against sin. If He punishes sin. You thought the fiery furnace was something? He’s got fire coming out of throne.

And the whiteness of His hair? That probably symbolizes His age. He’s the Ancient of Days. He’s forever old!

And He’s forever wise. The whiteness of His hair probably illustrates His wisdom, too. Nothing escapes Him. He always knows what to do. He always knows what is right. He’s furious against evil. 

And He’s always been this way, and He’ll always be this way!

He’s the Ancient of Days!

And He is seated on the throne. And He’s surrounded by angelic(?) and maybe saintly(?) attendants. Verse 10. “Thousands upon thousands attended him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him.” I don’t think that means 100,000. I think that means an uncountable number. Angels everywhere. Every eye on Him. Every eye seeing what He says. Every ear hanging on His every word. He is glorious! He is majestic! 

And He always has been, and He always will be.

In verse 2 through 8, I envision all kinds of terrible sounds to go with the the terrible beasts. The storm, the eating of flesh, trampling of people, the screams. But then in verse 9, I hear stillness and peace. The crackling of His holy fire and the opening of the books. 

These books are probably the records of the deeds of human beings. And the Ancient of Days is the judge. He was, is, and always will be God enthroned over all.

That is good news, brothers and sisters. Because it means that this world is not out of control. It may feel that way. And there are terrible things unleashed in the world. There are beasts. Our world can be monstrous. Human kingdoms can be terrifying and frightening and very powerful. Crushing, devouring, trampling.

But there is and always has been and always will be an eternal God enthroned above all.

Tomorrow, a bunch of us are going to Stay Sharp, our district theology conference, and this year the theme is True Spiritual Warfare. So we’ll be talking about Satan and demons and prayer and all of that. And sometimes can get to thinking that our world is a battle between our holy God and the unholy Satan, and they are about equal. Kind of “yin and yang.” And one gets the upper hand then the other gets the upper hand for a while.

But that’s not how it is at all. God is God, and Satan is just a wannabe. They are not anywhere close to equal.

Now, Satan is terrible and terrifying and so are all of his minions, including the humans who band together into evil empires to rule over us and persecute God’s people.  They are truly powerful and scary.

But not to God! Not to the Ancient of Days. He was, is, and always will be God enthroned over all.

And He’s going to do something about the evil. He’s going to judge it. That’s the point of verse 11.

“‘Then I [Daniel] continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)” (vv.11-12).

Daniel keeps looking, looking, looking in his visionary dream.

And it’s kind of like it’s split screen? (I get this idea from Christopher J.H. Wright.)

Up here is the Ancient of Days. Peaceful and powerful. And down on this screen is that eleventh horn on the terrible fourth beast still mouthing off. And then, the Ancient of Days judges the beast so that it dies, and it’s throne into the fire that was coming out of His throne. 

He’s dead. Totally dead. Burnt to a crisp and gone. 

Suddenly, supernaturally, spectacularly! And it’s final. The other beasts, the first three had already lost their authority but had been allowed to hang around in some way. But this is final. This is decisive.

The Ancient of Days wins!

And then He gives away His kingdom. And that’s is (if I can say it) even more wild! Look at verse 13.

“‘In my vision at night I looked [dream part 3], and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed” (vv.13-14).

This Person is the furthest thing from a beast. He’s not like any of those animals. He’s “like a son of man.” That means He seems human.

But He’s also seems heavenly, right? He rides on the clouds?! Only God rides on the clouds!

So He seems human and He seems divine. And He is allowed into the presence of the Ancient of Days. And He’s welcome there. He doesn’t cower. He doesn’t fear. He just flows right up to One on the Eternal Throne. 

And the Ancient of Days confers on Him a kingdom. The kingdom! The kingdom unlike any other kingdom.

This is the part of the Book of Daniel that is quoted the most in the New Testament, and you can guess why. 

Because I think we now on this side of the Cross, have a pretty good idea Who this “one like a son of man” really is!

But for Daniel, this is all new.  He’s heard some things like this before. There are a lot of similarities between Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in chapter 2 and Daniel’s dream here in chapter 7. But there are also a lot of new things. And they were troubling to Daniel. Look at verse 15.

“‘I, Daniel, was troubled in spirit, and the visions that passed through my mind disturbed me.”

What does it all mean? Ironically, Daniel could interpret the dreams of the pagan kings, but this one he didn’t understand on his own. So he asked someone in his dream what it means. Probably an angel. Look at verse 16.

“I approached one of those standing there and asked him the true meaning of all this. ‘So he told me and gave me the interpretation of these things:

'The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever–yes, for ever and ever.'”

So that’s the meaning of Daniel’s dream. Those two verses capture the true meaning in just a few words. The four beasts are not monsters who are going to be unleashed on the earth.

They are four kingdoms. Now, what does that remind you of? Nebuchadnezzar’s dream of the statue, right? Remember there were four parts to the statue. With four different materials? Head of Gold, Chest of Silver, Belly of Bronze, Legs of Iron and 10 Toes of Iron and Clay. And we learned back then that they were all kings and their kingdoms. And who was the head of gold? Nebuchadnezzar and his Babylon.

So here we have 4 beasts which are also four kings and their kingdoms according to the angel in verse 14.

So they might match up like this:

1. Beast like a lion = Head of Gold
2. Beast like a bear = Chest of Silver
3. Beast like a leopard = Belly of Bronze
4. Beast unlike all others = Legs of Iron. (Notice that beast has teeth of iron.)
... and 10 Horns = 10 Toes of Iron &Clay

Now, which particular kingdoms does it say that that these four beasts are? What does verse 17 say? (That’s a trick question.)

It does not say! It does not say which kingdoms these four beasts are. And faithful Christians have disagreed about the identification of these kingdoms for over 2,000 years.

My guess is that we have several different theories in this room. And that’s okay. I’ll tell you my best guesses in just a second. But it’s okay for us to have different ideas about that. What’s important is that we agree about verses 17 and 18.

“The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever–yes, for ever and ever.”

#2. THE ANCIENT OF DAYS WILL DESTROY ALL OF OUR ENEMIES.

The Ancient of Days will kill all of the beasts.
The Ancient of Days will slay all of the monsters.
The Ancient of Days will defeat and destroy all of the evil empires of humanity.

That’s what we need to know.

The Bible doesn’t tell us everything we want to know. But the Bible does tell us everything we need to know. 

And we need to know that there is evil at work in the world. We need to know that our world has a very ugly side to it. We don’t live in Candyland. Our world is scary and ferocious, especially to believers. In chapter 2, the statue of kingdoms looks imposing. But in chapter 7, we see it from God’s perspective above and from the oppressed’s perspective below. It’s more than imposing. It’s terrifying.

That’s true. We need to know that. Daniel needed to know that. The people of Israel needed to know. They needed to know what was coming. And they needed to know that it would not go on forever.

“The four great beasts are four kingdoms that will rise from the earth. But the saints of the Most High will receive the kingdom and will possess it forever–yes, for ever and ever.”

The Ancient of Days will destroy all of our enemies. He will judge them. They will burn up in the fire that comes out of his throne. The beast is slain! The beast is burnt. That’s what’s going to happen!

So, Daniel wants to know more. He’s trying to wrap his mind around, especially, this fourth beast. The “different” one. “What’s going to happen?” Look at verse 19.

“‘Then I wanted to know the true meaning of the fourth beast, which was different from all the others and most terrifying, with its iron teeth and bronze claws [that’s a new detail!]–the beast that crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left.

I also wanted to know about the ten horns on its head and about the other horn that came up, before which three of them fell–the horn that looked more imposing than the others and that had eyes and a mouth that spoke boastfully.

As I watched, this horn was waging war against the saints and defeating them [and defeating them!], until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.

“He gave me this explanation: 'The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.

The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever’” (vv.19-26).

Now, the interpreter has told Daniel a few more details. But notice that he still does not name names. He still does not tell us what is what and who is who. And his basic point is that things get really bad and then the Ancient of Days fixes it all. Remember, He is the point of it all. Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days.

So, here’s what I think. And I could be wrong. I’ve changed my mind on this over the years. And I’ve studied all kinds of views this week, once again. There are good arguments all around.

I tend to think that the first beast is Babylon. I mean it feels pretty parallel with the head of gold. And that’s the only kingdom that’s been identified in the book so far. So look at verse 4 again.

“The first was like a lion...” Lions were the chief animal to represent Babylon. There were 120 lions in bold relief just past the Ishtar Gate. And it conquered the world swiftly. Perhaps that’s what the wings meant. But then they got their wings clipped. Was that Nebuchadnezzar’s madness that we read about in chapter 4? If so, then it’s already happened by the time Daniel is having this dream. And it would make sense that the “heart of a man being given to it” was Nebuchadnezzar humbling himself and becoming sane again. Not quite sure, but that makes some sense.

I tend to think that the second beast is the kingdom of the Medes and the Persians. I mean, that’s what came next, right? The fact that in verse 5 the bear is kind of lopsided might point to the Persians growing to be the bigger part of the double-kingdom. I’m not sure. They definitely were hungry for conquest though. They ate up the kingdoms of Lydia, Babylon, and Egypt. Perhaps those are the 3 ribs in the bear-beast’s mouth.

So that would make the third beast the next major world power after the Medes and the Persians. Does anybody know what that was? Who conquered the world next? It was the Greeks under Alexander. And he was conquered fast! In ten years from being 22 to being 32, he conquered the whole known world of his day. Supposedly he cried because there were no more kingdoms to conquer. Maybe that’s why the leopard-beast has 4 wings? And the four heads? Maybe because his kingdom was divided up among 4 kings when he died. We’ll talk more about that next week in chapter 8 and later in chapter 11 because it becomes important there.

And what does that make the fourth beast? Well, it would make sense to say Rome. Because it will be the Roman Empire that conquers the Greek Empire and then lasts for hundreds of years. “Terrifying and frightening and very powerful.”

But this kingdom Daniel keeps saying is “different.” It’s different. And so it probably is Rome. But I think it’s more than Rome. It’s like Rome plus all the other kingdoms of the world that come after it. Or if it’s Rome, and it’s Rome again. Rome on steroids at the end of history.

There’s a real argument to be made that just like the statue of chapter 2 is all of human kingdoms in one statue, this is all of human empires in four beasts. With the fourth beast eating up all the rest and being the worst, eventually the worst kingdom there ever was.

So this little big mouth horn of verse 8? There have been so many guesses about who that is. One of the most popular is a terrible king in the Greek kingdom called Antiochus IV Epiphenes. We’re going to learn more about him in the next month or so, as well. He was completely evil and completely awful. 

And even if Antiochus isn’t the little big mouth horn, he definitely was a precursor to the little big mouth horn. A foretaste about how bad it can get. 

But there have been many other guesses.


I think that’s the same person that the Apostle Paul calls, “The Man of Lawlessness” in 2 Thessalonians 2.

And I think it’s the same person that John the Revelator simply calls, “The Beast” in the Book of Revelation. And he is either in the world now or still on the way. We don’t know.

Verse 21 says that he wages war against the saints and is defeating them. He’s persecuting followers of Jesus! Making their lives a living hell like what was planned for Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in chapter 3 and for Daniel in the lions den of chapter 6.

Iron teeth and bronze claws. Crushing, devouring, trampling. He’s powerful and terrifying and imposing and formidable.

But he’s also toast!

Verse 22. “Until the Ancient of Days came and pronounced judgment in favor of the saints of the Most High, and the time came when they possessed the kingdom.” (See also 2 Thessalonians 2:8 and Revelation 20:10.)

This dream is not about the little big mouth horn. It’s about the Ancient of Days. If you can’t see it, keep looking. Just like Daniel. Keep looking. Keep looking. Keep looking.

I know it feels sometimes like there are too many kings with too much power over us. Some Christians in this world are at the mercy of kings with no mercy. And it’s going to get worse.

But, at the same time, we have nothing to worry about. Because the Ancient of Days will destroy all of our enemies including the worst ones ever. Everything is going to be made right.

And it will be sooner than it seems. In verse 25, after it gives some more detail about the 10 horns (10 toes?), the 10 kings and the three kings that are tossed out for the one worst king, it says that “The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time.”

And there are all kind of theories about that, too. It could simply mean three and half years. A year, two years, a half a year. Which could be the second half of a seven-year tribulation period, if that’s your take on it. It’s also 1260 days and 42 months which show up again in the Book of Revelation. 


But what I keep coming back to in those words is how it seems like they get cut short.

A time of persecution and trouble. Seems forever.
Times (like double, two times) like it feels as though it will never end.
But then just half-a-time. All of a sudden, it’s over. Like it was cut short.

I don’t know if that’s right. I’m not sure about a lot of these details. But I am sure that one day we will be able to look back and see with crystal clarity, “Oh, that’s what He meant!”

And I’m also sure about this: The Ancient of Days will destroy all of our enemies including the worst ones ever. Verse 26.

“But the court will sit [sit!], and [the last king’s] power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever.'"

And then we get the kingdom! Look at verse 27.

“Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him. ‘This is the end of the matter. I, Daniel, was deeply troubled by my thoughts, and my face turned pale, but I kept the matter to myself’” (vv.27-28).

I’m glad he wrote it down for later. 

I’m sure he was really disturbed this dream. I sure that Daniel wanted to hear that, after Babylon, the people of God were going to go back to the Promised Land and live there securely. Daniel didn’t want to hear that they were going to be kicked around and oppressed by at least three more terrible kingdoms.

But I’m also sure that Daniel was deeply reasurred that God has a plan for His people. And that is to give them the kingdom of all kingdoms through the King of all kings.

#3. THE ANCIENT OF DAYS WILL GIVE THE KINGDOM OF KINGDOMS TO THE KING OF KINGS.

Wait. Which is it? Verse 22 and verse 27 say that the kingdom will be handed over to “the saints, the people of the Most High.” But verse 14 told us that it was given to the “one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.”

Which is it? It’s both, right? 

The son of man is given the kingdom because He deserves it. He comes into the presence of the Ancient of Days, and He is clearly worthy of the kingdom. He must be in His Person worthy of the kingdom. And His deeds, His accomplishments must be worthy of the kingdom. Or the Ancient of Days wouldn’t just give it to Him.

And look at verse 14. Our memory verse. After He receives the kingdom, all peoples, nations, and men of every language worshiped Him.

The cloud-rider! And that was right! The cloud-rider was worthy of that worship. The cloud-rider! is worthy of that worship! Because He died and rose again.

What was Jesus’ favorite name for Himself? He loved to call Himself, “The Son of Man.” 

And He promised us that one day the world will “see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory” (Matt. 24:30). Bringing the kingdom with Him and giving it, by grace, to us His people.

He got the kingdom from the Ancient of Days, riding up to Him on a cloud. He’s enthroned right now with Him (Psalm 110, Hebrew 1)! 

And one day, He will return, coming back on the clouds, bringing His eternal kingdom, the kingdom of kingdoms, to hand over to us! Forever and ever. Yes, forever and ever, Amen.

Keep your eyes on the Ancient of Days.


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Messages in This Series:

01. The King's Service - Daniel 1:1-21
02. The God of Heaven - Daniel 2:1-49
Bonus Message: "No Matter What" - Daniel 3:1-30 from Family Bible Week 2012
03. The God We Serve - Daniel 3:1-30
04. The King of Heaven - Daniel 4:1-37
05. The Lord of Heaven - Daniel 5:1-31
06. The Living God - Daniel 6:1-28